....but then your comment is bs so who really cares. Of course Obama said what he needed to say to get elected.
That's what politicians do.
We just need to follow FDR's advice and comments such as yours are not really helpful in doing that sir.
You are playing a Rovian game in asserting that 'we' are wrong and you were, according to you, right. This reduces the quality of the dialogue here and you really ought to consider that before you start telling folks what's wrong with 'em.
....because that is what you are. This statement is:
Government welfare didn't work under FDR to get us out of the Depression....
a lie. It has been demonstrated to be such by numerous posters here, Presidential biographers and people who know their American history. Your comment is without factual basis and you making it here is deliberately provactive. Thus the troll rating by me.
Tom you need to educate yourself on what actually happened under FDR. Otherwise you are, sadly, going to be one of those of whom Mark Twain said:
Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt!
What a sham--smoke and mirrors to shield the biggest pork give away that does very little to stimulate or create jobs. The result will be to send America down the path to Socialism and insolvency.
This gigantic welfare bill sucks to high heaven. Government welfare didn't work under FDR to get us out of the Depression and the House Bill is a cracked mirror of FDR's programs. Nancy Pelosi was so gleeful when reporting passage her eyes had the appearance of a deer caught in the headlights of a oncoming car. If this package were to pass muster, we, our children and grandchildren will be strapped for decades with an outrageous debt that will never be paid off. The House Democrats are completely out of control spending like drunken sailors tossing everything they can think of into to a head on collision where no one survives. Heaven help America as is could be heading down the path of becoming a 3rd world nation so in debt that it will be vulnerable to just about anything one could imagine. Pray that the contents of this Bill die an unnatural death.
"... all contracts entered into with stimulus funds require contractors to provide at least 20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people withincomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. ..."
of course, it'll never happen in a million years, sadly.
When it comes to international trade Obama, McCain, Hellary, Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Paul, Thompson, Guiliani (and not sure about Democratic Primaries except Hellary, but they're probably all the same too), they are all free traitors.
I voted for Duncan Hunter in the primaries, and "the radical" Chuck Baldwin in the general election.
Duncan Hunter has a great record on immigration too, and he was one of the few, the proud, the Congressmen who voted against the 700 Ba-Ba-Ba-Ba-Billion wasted bailout.
Yes Ron Paul is a free traitor too, he's a Libertarian and all Libertarians are free traitors.
cross posting of "big meat" posts is aok, just change the title a tad and the first couple of lines to "fake out" the various SEO and aggregators. These automated systems "punish" copies and give lower page rank due to so many idiots out there thinking they will "get rich" on the Internets by running a blog and outright copy other people's work.
So, that's the way to "fake out" the aggregators in legitimate exposure techniques.
Then, put a link over to your blog. That helps give your "home base" more exposure. See user guide for more tidbits and admin forum.
I have not been tracking on power engineering topics in the ANSI/IEEE etc. bodies but I sincerely doubt they would ignore more efficient technologies in a power grid redesign.
I'd look there to find it but US standards bodies, engineers are usually on top of their shit in these areas. ;)
(Policy people and Politicians won't be designing the actual grid infrastructure thank God!)
France extended more credit to PSA Peugeot Citroen and Renault SA and said aid to the carmakers may reach 6 billion euros ($7.8 billion) in return for their pledges to keep domestic plants open. “Our efforts for carmakers will be massive,” Prime Minister Francois Fillon told an industry conference today in Paris.
In return for aid totaling 5 billion euros to 6 billion euros, the government wants the carmakers to give “exemplary commitments” to keep production in France and help their struggling suppliers, he said. France has taken the lead in support for auto companies, after 2008 European car sales suffered the biggest contraction in 15 years. The government has already granted more than 1.32 billion euros ($1.71 billion) in assistance and is planning further aid measures, to be announced within two weeks. “State assistance is out of the question for any carmaker that decides to close a French site,” Fillon said. ...
I think he is confusing the distribution system with the source energy. In other words the source energy can be anything, i.e. wind farm, solar panels, wave energy....
the grid itself is just a distribution mechanism. It's a huge routing algorithm, similar to how one schedules air flights, in addition to the underlying transmission line distribution issues where energy is lost in the lines...
So, the grid would not "produce more CO2" that's the source energy which would be attached to the grid. So, in other words, build up power transmission lines to a wind farm in Texas...no CO2. Of course local sources will be in conjunction with grid upgrades...
So, location of cheaper, non-polluting, environmentally friendly sources just is not going to be stopped due to a modern distribution mechanism. He believes that magically one will have a "race to the bottom" on energy sources, but the key is to get into global/federal law, penalties for polluting systems so that cannot happen.
Instead, many alt energy sources which currently are not deployed....because they have no distribution system in place...can be "hooked into" the grid....
So, the grid is actually an alt. energy enabler.
In terms of costs, just like the 1930's grid really paid for itself in investment, generation of jobs, enabling of industrial production, business...hell the entire modern communications era (can't have no dang Internets w/o the power button!)....that's just not an expenditure at all...
it's an investment which in indirect ways pays for itself many times over.
In terms of timeline? they could speed it up. 20 years is a pathetically absurd timeline. I mean this is not the Panama canal here w/o the technology to dig it.
as well as the statement the grid will not be upgradable...that is the fundamental design of the new grid...it is upgradable.
Then the argument of reducing the energy used would say there isn't a problem with global warming?
uh, the whole point of addressing global warming is to reduce energy consumption that is cost effective...so I says...put in the money!
Also, the power grid is a national security issue. It can be attacked, even remotely and if that happens, the entire United States is shut down. Everything is build upon the grid, or power distribution.
...anybody from this site to read The Solar Grand Plan.
I'm very concerned about the proposed 'smartgrid'. I've visited numerous government sites about it and even emailed the supposed head of this effort, no reply as of yet, and nowhere do I see the plans for....
At least he had some guts to say it (although Chase still is predatory lending, esp. on credit cards!) ...
check out the dailyshow clip in the Sunday Morning comics...
Stewart nails it on these executives completely out of reality that somehow they are the "best and the brightest" or the "cream of talent", hence deserve billions in bonuses.
Nice pull of A. Citizen's quote....this is assuredly one of the biggest hidden labor issues going on in the U.S. use of tax categorizations, permatemp to deny benefits, full wages.
....but then your comment is bs so who really cares. Of course Obama said what he needed to say to get elected.
That's what politicians do.
We just need to follow FDR's advice and comments such as yours are not really helpful in doing that sir.
You are playing a Rovian game in asserting that 'we' are wrong and you were, according to you, right. This reduces the quality of the dialogue here and you really ought to consider that before you start telling folks what's wrong with 'em.
Can you grasp that concept?
....because that is what you are. This statement is:
a lie. It has been demonstrated to be such by numerous posters here, Presidential biographers and people who know their American history. Your comment is without factual basis and you making it here is deliberately provactive. Thus the troll rating by me.
Tom you need to educate yourself on what actually happened under FDR. Otherwise you are, sadly, going to be one of those of whom Mark Twain said:
Start with this book: The Defining Moment: FDR's Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope. and do not forget what George Santayana said.
What a sham--smoke and mirrors to shield the biggest pork give away that does very little to stimulate or create jobs. The result will be to send America down the path to Socialism and insolvency.
This gigantic welfare bill sucks to high heaven. Government welfare didn't work under FDR to get us out of the Depression and the House Bill is a cracked mirror of FDR's programs. Nancy Pelosi was so gleeful when reporting passage her eyes had the appearance of a deer caught in the headlights of a oncoming car. If this package were to pass muster, we, our children and grandchildren will be strapped for decades with an outrageous debt that will never be paid off. The House Democrats are completely out of control spending like drunken sailors tossing everything they can think of into to a head on collision where no one survives. Heaven help America as is could be heading down the path of becoming a 3rd world nation so in debt that it will be vulnerable to just about anything one could imagine. Pray that the contents of this Bill die an unnatural death.
The Stimulus: How to Create Jobs Without Them All Going to Skilled Professionals and White Male Construction Workers -- http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/01/stimulus-how-to-create-jobs-with...
"... all contracts entered into with stimulus funds require contractors to provide at least 20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people withincomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. ..."
of course, it'll never happen in a million years, sadly.
Businessweek -- Rebuilding America's Job Machine -- http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_06/b4118038654198.htm?ch...
tons of stuff on how they protect their own industries while trying to open every other country to their products --
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/issues/sectoral/competitiveness/global_europe_...
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/wtodispute/search.cfm?code=2
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/issues/respectrules/safeguard/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/issues/sectoral/index_en.htm
and check the WTO too -- http://www.wto.org/
When it comes to international trade Obama, McCain, Hellary, Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Paul, Thompson, Guiliani (and not sure about Democratic Primaries except Hellary, but they're probably all the same too), they are all free traitors.
I voted for Duncan Hunter in the primaries, and "the radical" Chuck Baldwin in the general election.
Duncan Hunter has a great record on immigration too, and he was one of the few, the proud, the Congressmen who voted against the 700 Ba-Ba-Ba-Ba-Billion wasted bailout.
Yes Ron Paul is a free traitor too, he's a Libertarian and all Libertarians are free traitors.
I voted for Duncan Hunter (primaries) and Chuck Baldwin (general election). I sleep fine at night.
are just as protectionist, if not more so.
for a Manufacturing Monday update?
...so as to get this right. I don't expect this to happen soon. Still sick and still busy being 'self-employed'....hah...
cross posting of "big meat" posts is aok, just change the title a tad and the first couple of lines to "fake out" the various SEO and aggregators. These automated systems "punish" copies and give lower page rank due to so many idiots out there thinking they will "get rich" on the Internets by running a blog and outright copy other people's work.
So, that's the way to "fake out" the aggregators in legitimate exposure techniques.
Then, put a link over to your blog. That helps give your "home base" more exposure. See user guide for more tidbits and admin forum.
I have not been tracking on power engineering topics in the ANSI/IEEE etc. bodies but I sincerely doubt they would ignore more efficient technologies in a power grid redesign.
I'd look there to find it but US standards bodies, engineers are usually on top of their shit in these areas. ;)
(Policy people and Politicians won't be designing the actual grid infrastructure thank God!)
-- France Dangles EU6 Billion in Auto Aid, Wants Plant Commitments -- http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLUYiDSEvAak&refer=home
that immediately means it'll all be patchwork if at all -- and the national grid won't be helped (which is itself not really national, i think)
All the coasts should do solar, tidal, and wind and hydro where they can, and the middle can use solar and wind.
We have plenty of options everywhere in the country, i'd say.
I think he is confusing the distribution system with the source energy. In other words the source energy can be anything, i.e. wind farm, solar panels, wave energy....
the grid itself is just a distribution mechanism. It's a huge routing algorithm, similar to how one schedules air flights, in addition to the underlying transmission line distribution issues where energy is lost in the lines...
So, the grid would not "produce more CO2" that's the source energy which would be attached to the grid. So, in other words, build up power transmission lines to a wind farm in Texas...no CO2. Of course local sources will be in conjunction with grid upgrades...
So, location of cheaper, non-polluting, environmentally friendly sources just is not going to be stopped due to a modern distribution mechanism. He believes that magically one will have a "race to the bottom" on energy sources, but the key is to get into global/federal law, penalties for polluting systems so that cannot happen.
Instead, many alt energy sources which currently are not deployed....because they have no distribution system in place...can be "hooked into" the grid....
So, the grid is actually an alt. energy enabler.
In terms of costs, just like the 1930's grid really paid for itself in investment, generation of jobs, enabling of industrial production, business...hell the entire modern communications era (can't have no dang Internets w/o the power button!)....that's just not an expenditure at all...
it's an investment which in indirect ways pays for itself many times over.
In terms of timeline? they could speed it up. 20 years is a pathetically absurd timeline. I mean this is not the Panama canal here w/o the technology to dig it.
as well as the statement the grid will not be upgradable...that is the fundamental design of the new grid...it is upgradable.
Then the argument of reducing the energy used would say there isn't a problem with global warming?
uh, the whole point of addressing global warming is to reduce energy consumption that is cost effective...so I says...put in the money!
Also, the power grid is a national security issue. It can be attacked, even remotely and if that happens, the entire United States is shut down. Everything is build upon the grid, or power distribution.
This is like being 'mentioned in dispatches...'. Thanks to NDD and the rest.
I have a busy week ahead but after I switch my Wordpress blog to .com I will be blogging more about this.
Lots and lots of us self-employed our here and we are...
...not happy with the situation.
insane.
...anybody from this site to read The Solar Grand Plan.
I'm very concerned about the proposed 'smartgrid'. I've visited numerous government sites about it and even emailed the supposed head of this effort, no reply as of yet, and nowhere do I see the plans for....
High Voltage Direct Current lines.
This is a major disaster. AC lines are not nearly as capable as HCDC lines are of efficiently transmitting power for long distances.
Ask the Chinese.
I can only hope, I will be emailing him, that Stephen Chu gets this fixed.
The 'smartgrid' will be a disaster if it does not incorporate HVDC backbones.
At least he had some guts to say it (although Chase still is predatory lending, esp. on credit cards!) ...
check out the dailyshow clip in the Sunday Morning comics...
Stewart nails it on these executives completely out of reality that somehow they are the "best and the brightest" or the "cream of talent", hence deserve billions in bonuses.
Nice pull of A. Citizen's quote....this is assuredly one of the biggest hidden labor issues going on in the U.S. use of tax categorizations, permatemp to deny benefits, full wages.
Pages