Really, I was hoping to publish something large in size with FRED Graphic. I am hearing that that is a terrible idea to have any content from FRED even if I do not use FRED links?
It's a shame what they've done. I'm looking forward to having Econ-Pop back up at some point as it was my most trusted read on the entire internet for any sort of news. I'll keep checking periodically to see how long it takes to get your site back up.
seems everytime i check my old posts the graphs have changed; they must be applying changes on the fly without testing them...the latest is that most, if not all, of my bar graphs have been turned into fairly meaningless line graphs, while my explanations of what the bar graphs had meant remains in place..
Assuming you can't prevail on the St. Louis Fed to return to the old graphics platform, please do whatever you can to render your most important published grafs in an alternate system. This site is too good for me to be indifferent about it shutting down.
I finally got to phase one of the site fix. This is going to be slow going and anyone watching, you're probably seeing the FRED disaster get worse and worse, no doubt they are also giving us the finger after the final very public call out, but hey, they ruined our site! Gone is the awesome free factual public analysis!
Anywho, next phase is to disconnect the St. Louis Fed from this site, so I'm looking for replacement graphs. I'm not sure how exactly I am going to do this, I need to do it before publishing new content and I was hoping not to break 3,000 links by destroying 3,000 articles that link to FRED for graphs.
Obviously that cannot be done manually, unless someone has 5 years, this is how long it took to write these.
always have a display for no javascript and always use localized JQuery and not javascript but what the hell.
Anywho, I hope to get the first stage of our site fix this weekend. I'm having an "elder crisis" on top of things and I must absolutely write about that in terms of the economics.
I've had some other geeks who read EP start to email offer to volunteer so maybe between us we can throw together a graphing system. the real problem i see is obtaining easily the actual tabulated data to input into the graphing system. That too is gov. data and it seems disallowing, denying access of data has been going on at other agencies. I think part of that is security, part budget cuts but the reason, hmmm....
At least we're not the only site who is up in arms about what is going on. This really chokes us providing Journalistic level of coverage on economics.
the markings across the bottom of my GDP bar graph indicate Q4 2012 for the first quarter of 2012, and Q2 2012 for the third quarter of 2012 (yes, the yearly dates are backwards) and it also includes bars for Q4 2014...then the interactive slider on my income and outlays graph allows me daily readings for PCE and DPI...
edit: i also see the end date for the data on that graph is marked 2019-08-06
I even offered to volunteer, which if anyone knows me in "real life", I'm so overqualified and experienced that was quite the gift, yet that too was completely blown off.
Hilarious considering my consulting rate. ;)
I'm getting some solutions going, hopefully will take EP off line this evening to start the 1st phase of the "repair". Going to have to do this in stages and my "real life" I have critical tasks that I must address on top of this disaster.
I promise, EP will survive, we'll keep it going, this is just a critical wound that we have to repair and in terms of offering extensive economic eye candy, that solution is going to take a long time. Now that is real code, real architecture, so honestly I just don't know what i can throw together on it, although I am aware of various open source components that will work as part of a solution, Huge TBD.
ha ha ha, something has changed and it is for the better, no wonder people are saying they see no difference.
We'll see, but maybe my public rant actually helped here, I have to do more testing and see but if true, then the issue is just the new graphs.
Basically a page which had a page load speed of 5.84s is now down to 2.88. Now that is not 1.2s which is what it used to be, but for legacy, not in Google news, I can live with 2.88s.
I still have the issue of my super mega fast graphing solution is destroyed but I sure hope they reverted to some of the old engine which would at least "save" in part the 3,000 existing articles.
Will update if true, have to take the site off line and do some testing.
i dont notice a slower load here, while my encumbered browser takes forever on pages from huff post, bloomberg, guardian and especially business insider
i did notice the somewhat distorted graphs on your IP post earlier this week, thought that you were going with it the way it was..
This site has over 3,000 articles linking to old FRED graphs, perhaps you are not reading the details to see the distortions or noticing the very slow page load. We're better than others but it's still quite the disaster.
Our site page load speed was under 2 seconds, any post, That's a professional site page load, now it is 5 seconds and worse. That's not acceptable as a news source and our load is super light.
Our hits went from 4k a day with 15k reader spikes to ?? Well this is getting interest but still, 1.5k a day? Yesterday it was down to 200 hits. that's simply noise for readership.
The graphs are just terrible, gone is the high resolution so I can show, clearly what I am pointing out in the text.
But due to the overwhelming response, folks, I wll fix this site. Gone is all of the great eye candy until I can build a solution, although our custom graphs I will still try to create.
So, we're going to have to tough it out, I will have to take the site off line, heavy modifications and such,
but I will keep EP going.
I wonder how many others are flipping out over this, their sites ruined. Looks like anyone who linked to any graph?
because i had all my FRED graphs linked back to my saved graphs on their website, and they did a real job on my graphs with multiple data sets, like the one i used 8 days ago: https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=165654&category_id=0 ...on my blog, the 12 data set names in the strip across the top consume almost all the pixels i had allocated, leaving virtually no graph...
it took me about 8 or 9 tries to get one usable graph to go with my CPI coverage this weekend...one i often use, which resets the CPI components to 2000 so the various indexes could be compared apples to apples, was damaged beyond repair, so i tried to recreate it, and every time i tried to save it (here's a screenshot of what i wanted) they changed the base observation date to 2008....turns out you can only reset indexes to the beginning or end of a recession, so here's a picture of what i ended up with...if you go to my saved draft at FRED on that ( https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=167726 ), you'll see the interactive shows the beginning of the 2001 recession as "Thursday March 1st"; in fact all reports in FRED are all now dated with the day of the week the first of the month falls on, so obviously those graphs show some monthly reports being released on a Sunday... leaves me with the feeling they hired the same developers that worked on obamacare..
as you may recall, i'm using a bastardized version of IE 8 loaded with tools i use for my weekly links blogging, and the new FRED doesnt even display on that (i have an email from a senior developer confirming that bug)...but i checked with my correspondents, and so far they all can view the new graphs, as can i using Chrome, so i'll probably try to use them...even that i have to go easy on, because having five of them open at once really slowed down my chrome browser..
Really, I was hoping to publish something large in size with FRED Graphic. I am hearing that that is a terrible idea to have any content from FRED even if I do not use FRED links?
It's a shame what they've done. I'm looking forward to having Econ-Pop back up at some point as it was my most trusted read on the entire internet for any sort of news. I'll keep checking periodically to see how long it takes to get your site back up.
I sympathize. I loved FRED. Now it's worthless. Why aren't more bloggers complaining about this???
My first visit. I came here by tracking down a "Democracy in America" excerpt on inheritance laws, Numerian's post from 2010. Thanks!
this week FRED changed the font size on the headers from 13 to 8; the former was too large for graphs with multiple data sets, but these are barely readable: https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=125150&category_id=0
seems everytime i check my old posts the graphs have changed; they must be applying changes on the fly without testing them...the latest is that most, if not all, of my bar graphs have been turned into fairly meaningless line graphs, while my explanations of what the bar graphs had meant remains in place..
Assuming you can't prevail on the St. Louis Fed to return to the old graphics platform, please do whatever you can to render your most important published grafs in an alternate system. This site is too good for me to be indifferent about it shutting down.
I finally got to phase one of the site fix. This is going to be slow going and anyone watching, you're probably seeing the FRED disaster get worse and worse, no doubt they are also giving us the finger after the final very public call out, but hey, they ruined our site! Gone is the awesome free factual public analysis!
Anywho, next phase is to disconnect the St. Louis Fed from this site, so I'm looking for replacement graphs. I'm not sure how exactly I am going to do this, I need to do it before publishing new content and I was hoping not to break 3,000 links by destroying 3,000 articles that link to FRED for graphs.
Obviously that cannot be done manually, unless someone has 5 years, this is how long it took to write these.
So why is it the government wouldn't want people to have historical data?
always have a display for no javascript and always use localized JQuery and not javascript but what the hell.
Anywho, I hope to get the first stage of our site fix this weekend. I'm having an "elder crisis" on top of things and I must absolutely write about that in terms of the economics.
I've had some other geeks who read EP start to email offer to volunteer so maybe between us we can throw together a graphing system. the real problem i see is obtaining easily the actual tabulated data to input into the graphing system. That too is gov. data and it seems disallowing, denying access of data has been going on at other agencies. I think part of that is security, part budget cuts but the reason, hmmm....
At least we're not the only site who is up in arms about what is going on. This really chokes us providing Journalistic level of coverage on economics.
the markings across the bottom of my GDP bar graph indicate Q4 2012 for the first quarter of 2012, and Q2 2012 for the third quarter of 2012 (yes, the yearly dates are backwards) and it also includes bars for Q4 2014...then the interactive slider on my income and outlays graph allows me daily readings for PCE and DPI...
edit: i also see the end date for the data on that graph is marked 2019-08-06
I even offered to volunteer, which if anyone knows me in "real life", I'm so overqualified and experienced that was quite the gift, yet that too was completely blown off.
Hilarious considering my consulting rate. ;)
I'm getting some solutions going, hopefully will take EP off line this evening to start the 1st phase of the "repair". Going to have to do this in stages and my "real life" I have critical tasks that I must address on top of this disaster.
I promise, EP will survive, we'll keep it going, this is just a critical wound that we have to repair and in terms of offering extensive economic eye candy, that solution is going to take a long time. Now that is real code, real architecture, so honestly I just don't know what i can throw together on it, although I am aware of various open source components that will work as part of a solution, Huge TBD.
seriously: https://research.stlouisfed.org/jobopps/developer.html
interest in economics a plus...
ha ha ha, something has changed and it is for the better, no wonder people are saying they see no difference.
We'll see, but maybe my public rant actually helped here, I have to do more testing and see but if true, then the issue is just the new graphs.
Basically a page which had a page load speed of 5.84s is now down to 2.88. Now that is not 1.2s which is what it used to be, but for legacy, not in Google news, I can live with 2.88s.
I still have the issue of my super mega fast graphing solution is destroyed but I sure hope they reverted to some of the old engine which would at least "save" in part the 3,000 existing articles.
Will update if true, have to take the site off line and do some testing.
I cannot notice a difference. And saying this would have destroyed the site is a wild exageration.
By the way, hit counts should not be influenced by this anyway. Evn if pictures take some time to load, the page is still loaded first.
i dont notice a slower load here, while my encumbered browser takes forever on pages from huff post, bloomberg, guardian and especially business insider
i did notice the somewhat distorted graphs on your IP post earlier this week, thought that you were going with it the way it was..
This site has over 3,000 articles linking to old FRED graphs, perhaps you are not reading the details to see the distortions or noticing the very slow page load. We're better than others but it's still quite the disaster.
Our site page load speed was under 2 seconds, any post, That's a professional site page load, now it is 5 seconds and worse. That's not acceptable as a news source and our load is super light.
Our hits went from 4k a day with 15k reader spikes to ?? Well this is getting interest but still, 1.5k a day? Yesterday it was down to 200 hits. that's simply noise for readership.
The graphs are just terrible, gone is the high resolution so I can show, clearly what I am pointing out in the text.
But due to the overwhelming response, folks, I wll fix this site. Gone is all of the great eye candy until I can build a solution, although our custom graphs I will still try to create.
So, we're going to have to tough it out, I will have to take the site off line, heavy modifications and such,
but I will keep EP going.
I wonder how many others are flipping out over this, their sites ruined. Looks like anyone who linked to any graph?
Robert, where is your blog broken? I see nothing wrong.
because i had all my FRED graphs linked back to my saved graphs on their website, and they did a real job on my graphs with multiple data sets, like the one i used 8 days ago: https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=165654&category_id=0 ...on my blog, the 12 data set names in the strip across the top consume almost all the pixels i had allocated, leaving virtually no graph...
it took me about 8 or 9 tries to get one usable graph to go with my CPI coverage this weekend...one i often use, which resets the CPI components to 2000 so the various indexes could be compared apples to apples, was damaged beyond repair, so i tried to recreate it, and every time i tried to save it (here's a screenshot of what i wanted) they changed the base observation date to 2008....turns out you can only reset indexes to the beginning or end of a recession, so here's a picture of what i ended up with...if you go to my saved draft at FRED on that ( https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=167726 ), you'll see the interactive shows the beginning of the 2001 recession as "Thursday March 1st"; in fact all reports in FRED are all now dated with the day of the week the first of the month falls on, so obviously those graphs show some monthly reports being released on a Sunday... leaves me with the feeling they hired the same developers that worked on obamacare..
as you may recall, i'm using a bastardized version of IE 8 loaded with tools i use for my weekly links blogging, and the new FRED doesnt even display on that (i have an email from a senior developer confirming that bug)...but i checked with my correspondents, and so far they all can view the new graphs, as can i using Chrome, so i'll probably try to use them...even that i have to go easy on, because having five of them open at once really slowed down my chrome browser..
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